Sounds like you place a lot of importance on sense in both DJing and production.

Yeah, it’s been that way since a certain time way back. The COVID-19 pandemic is probably another one of those times. My body started responding more to organic grooves than tightly sequenced stuff. When I think about how to create audio scene that will show a different aspect even if you listen to them every day, I guess maybe my style is work by sense, layering and placing things as I find coherency in the audio image. Almost like a gardener. Sense is important when thinking of space. I try to go for grooves that feel as organic as possible in my mixes and electric compositions.

It feels like you’ve reached a place that’s pretty far removed from your original scene. Maybe you’re where you’re at now because you’ve accepted your raw sense as it is and embraced it with honesty.

I owe it to the different connections I’ve gained through DJing that I’m able to find a way to continue being active in music and related areas. There’s a definite demand for music to be played at clubs in cities, so that cycle is still a part of my role. But I’ve also come to really feel that this other world entirely separate from all that, this world where I can perceive space-time, is who I really am. This me is stable, like how I felt when I first started DJing, and feels like a world built on innate sense that is more true to myself. But there’s no feeling of “deep introspection” or anything like that. It’s more like I’m letting myself go with the flow and feeling the now.

Do you think you will continue to change in that way?

I’m pretty sure I will. When I went to see Terry Riley live, who by the way moved to Japan when he was 85, he was asked about what’s next for him. He said, “Every day brings change, so I don’t know what’s next. But, that also might be precisely why I’ve lived this long.” I’m not 85 years old, but I have a similar mindset, and I’ve been focused on the present ever since I was a kid without thinking too much about the future. Besides, no matter how much I think about it, if I can’t actually experience something, get the sensation of it and know its true nature, then I can’t truly enjoy anything.